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- A piece in Information Week by David Carr (LinkedIn, @DavidFCarr) >
Gartner Magic Quadrant: NetScout Says Secret Is Green - And this post by Duncan Chapple (LinkedIn, @DuncanChapple) of Kea >
Netscout unwisely sues Gartner for “Pay for Play” - And finally this post by Richard Stiennon (LinkedIn, @stiennon) >
NetScout’s Great Blunder: Suing Gartner
16/9/16 update:
- Duncan Chapple: Netscout continues unwise Gartner suit
See also this 2009 post by Jonny Bentwood: Is shooting on the referee productive?
Bottom line:
- The Gartner methodology is quite solid nowadays, however the firm is still expressing an opinion by the choices it makes on inclusion criteria and weightings for instance.
Related IIAR posts
- On ZL Technologies vs. Gartner (they lost) > Is shooting on the referee productive?
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- IIAR publishes Best Practice Paper on Managing the Gartner MQ
- Gartner engages in debates on their blog
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- Downfall: Gartner MQ and learnings
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- Gartner.com: Judge Grants Gartner Motion to Dismiss NetScout Law Suit
- Netscout: NETSCOUT CHALLENGES GARTNER MAGIC QUADRANT REPORT
- Forbes: Can NetScout Get The Respect It Deserves?
- The Register: NetScout sues Gartner over magic quadrant placement
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- [GUEST POST] Timing is everything
- Gartner publishes MQ FAQ
- Gartner details the MQ process
- Downfall: Gartner MQ and learnings
- WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Gideon Gartner on the IIAR Blog!
- Is shooting on the referee productive?
- IIAR publishes Best Practice Paper on Managing the Gartner MQ
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“Two interesting takes” and three articles? Oh, that’s dry 😉
Duncan,
I contributed to Jonny’s piece on “don’t shoot the referee” and it sums it all pretty much. More interestingly though, is the point that Richard makes: look at what happened to ZL Technologies. It looks like they cosied up with Gartner and things improved?
Which reminds me of an infamous piece from META Group by Phil Dawson (now at Gartner) saying “Sun is the next Digital, unless…” Sun withdrew their business from META, kicked a fuss, etc, but then came back. I saw the Sun acquisition by Oracle from the inside and it seems to me that the Sun/Digital (the latter having been bought by Compaq who then was purchased by HP) wasn’t too far off…
Bottom line: shooting the messenger doesn’t help one’s cause.
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